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pick1936 - Posted - 11/27/2009: 22:47:51
Hey Ted, That sounds like a Great Name, I Could never beat that. Boy These Nechville's are great aint They? Of course..
The more people Try them, The more They will like them. I would rather pick,, Than be a Nut Turner..
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
pick1936 - Posted - 11/28/2009: 20:45:58
I will be pickin My (Timbr--Tronic) Classic Deluxe at Church Tomorrow, along with the pastor on 12 string guitar, and let Me tell You that twelve string is loud, and He really gets with it, He has an advantage, He has 5 bass strings, But This old Nechville cuts thru, better get off, have to get up at 5:30 A.M. can hardly wait, You guys who have never tried a Nechville, with a Wood tone Ring,, ---7 Lbs,, really need to give one a try.
That 13 lb banjo, was a little to heavy, for My size, Lord for My size.
Then I got Me a wood one, and it it sounds real good, and I'm not
going back son, No I'm not goin back, So Roll On Buddy, You can't Roll to slow,
With the Nechville banjo, You can Roll, and Roll, and fast.
Its a long way to Harland, It's a long way to Hazard, just to pick Nechville,
and let Your steell balls Roll,, Oh Heah..
Nechville. In Higginsville.
Edited by - pick1936 on 12/21/2009 20:21:29
nechville - Posted - 11/29/2009: 18:49:16
Hey Lee, That 13 pound banjo tune gave me a big smile, I think that one could be a new theme song, Take care
pick1936 - Posted - 11/30/2009: 20:06:06
Hey Tom, Thats just My first Draft, on The Nine pound Hammer banjo, tune, I did that in about 15 min. I think If I work on it for a week or so I might make a song of it yet??? ,, anyway its fun stuff, The light banjo, now Thats serious>
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
pick1936 - Posted - 12/01/2009: 22:14:48
Hey, How did We get way down at the bottom??
Nechville belongs at the top.. WOW.
Update, goin pickin tonight, what a Joy.
Balls to the wood, Screw it down tight,
makes for a sound . thats Out a Site....
Roll On Buddy, Don't Roll To Slow.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
Edited by - pick1936 on 12/04/2009 09:57:39
jbanjoist - Posted - 12/05/2009: 09:59:32
good one Lee. you inspired me so here's one to the happy bday tune.
Is your banjo too heavy,
Does it break your poor back,
Well grab your self a Nechville,
And NEVER look back!
pick1936 - Posted - 12/05/2009: 18:14:10
Thats good J,, And so true, Once You get a Nechville, You'll never look back.
Wood Is Good.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
pick1936 - Posted - 12/06/2009: 21:18:26
As Jimmy Rodgers, used to say Man,, Man,, Man,, What a day at Church today, ( Pickin Guitar, Gibson Of Course),, and My GREAT Timbr--Tronic Classic Deluxe, 7 lb. banjo, All day at Church, practicing for Cristmas program next Sunday night, What a Day, You couldn't beat it with a hammer.. (Pickin All Day, And dinner On The Ground), Well not on the ground, little to cold., But What A Day, Any Day With The Lord, And A Nechville is A Good Day...
Wood sure Is Good.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
Edited by - pick1936 on 12/06/2009 21:19:53
pick1936 - Posted - 12/07/2009: 19:53:11
We had a GREAT day at Church like always, Banjo, guitar, two Fiddles, one Mandolyn, What a Great banjo.
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Goldstarman - Posted - 12/07/2009: 19:58:04
Lee I like you There is nothing like playiong a nechville and playing in the church it is great
snakeherd - Posted - 12/08/2009: 16:14:31
quote:
Originally posted by pick1936
We had a GREAT day at Church like always, Banjo, guitar, two Fiddles, one Mandolyn, What a Great banjo.
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
pick1936 - Posted - 12/09/2009: 12:51:43
yes Snake herd, Mandolins welcome, Our intire church loves bluegrass Gospell music, I'm going to church again tonight, to play My Nechville, For practicing The song for thr Christmas program Dec 13, almost a whole bluegrass band, everything exept a Bass, What a time We have, We could use another mandolin Thou..
Rings like Siver,
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
pick1936 - Posted - 12/09/2009: 22:09:17
We had another great practice tonight, Time flys when Your pickin Nechville.
Wood Is Good.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
pick1936 - Posted - 12/11/2009: 09:47:21
Another good day in the big town of Higginsville, Pickin My Nechville. Getting ready to go to K.C. MO. For My weekly shot injection, have a good day pickers.
Rings Like Silver.
But It's wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
RaYhOLio - Posted - 12/11/2009: 10:00:10
LOL Lee, you crack me up.. 3889 posts and at least 2000 of them are in THIS topic ;)
I can tell you LOVE your nechville! I can't wait to join the club :)
pick1936 - Posted - 12/12/2009: 20:00:51
Hey Ray, Not that many, although once You get a banjo as good as these puppy's its' hard not to brag a LITTLE bit, hey Maybe some day We can get together and pick some.
Whats hot and smokin son?
Heck Bill, Its a Nechville.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
RaYhOLio - Posted - 12/12/2009: 20:09:12
I hear ya! sounds like fun! :) maybe we can meet at one o these BG fests that pop up when it gets warmer :)
pick1936 - Posted - 12/14/2009: 22:19:58
We had a great Christmas program, Man This Nechville, Rings like wood, which sounds just like bronze. WOW.
Nechville. In Higinsville.
Edited by - pick1936 on 12/15/2009 19:51:50
pick1936 - Posted - 12/16/2009: 11:54:15
I just heard from My Pastor, after Church Sunday, We will eat at a friends house, and then pick all afternoon till church time at night. We should have 3 fiddles, 2 or 3 mandlin's 3 guitars one Dulcimer, one piano, one chord stick, and One (Nechville) Now I know lots of Gospel tunes, and a few Christmas tunes, so I need to work on some more for Christmas, Should be a Great day, Great preachin, Great Eatin,, Great pickin. Wow..
Try A Nechville, You'l Never go back to a Nut Turner
Rings Like Silver, But It's Wood.
Nechvile. In Higginsville.
Edited by - pick1936 on 12/23/2009 11:53:30
pick1936 - Posted - 12/17/2009: 22:19:19
Hey Ray, and J, Wish You guys could come, What a time We have, just good old pickin by plain old Country folks, We do mostly Gospel music, And some time the slow stuff is a little harder, exept some of those tunes You can use double time, with lots of Double stops, and Triplets, I try to throw in a little melodic in once in awhile, but I need lots more practice for that Sweet stuff, but I,m trying. WOW What Fun..
Off To Church To get Fed On Gods Word.
Then off to eat and pick Nechville Wood.
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
Edited by - pick1936 on 12/19/2009 21:39:58
the-fish - Posted - 12/18/2009: 05:01:33
I keep coming to check this thread out to see how Lee is doing...
Happy holidays Lee!
uncledaveh - Posted - 12/18/2009: 07:23:36
"I just heard from My Pastor, after Church Sunday, We will eat at a friends house, and then pick all afternoon till church time at night. We should have 3 fiddles, 2 or 3 mandlin's 3 guitars one Dulcimer, one piano, one chord stick, and One (Nechville) Now I know lots of Gospel tunes, and a few Christmas tunes, so I need to work on some more for Christmas, Should be a Great day, Great preachin, Great Eatin,, Great pickin."
Lee - If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I want to visit your Church (maybe pick a little).
David "Uncle Dave" Holbrook
The Rockdale Ridgerunners
pick1936 - Posted - 12/18/2009: 19:26:05
Hey Uncle dave, wish You could be here, I'm sure You would fit right in.. Hope You Ridgerunners, have a good Christmas, and Be good all next year.
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
pick1936 - Posted - 12/24/2009: 13:06:55
Boy The old 7 lb Nechville is sounding really good today, So whats new.
Nechville.In Higginsville.
jbanjoist - Posted - 12/25/2009: 11:27:15
To all my fellow "Nechvillians", Merry Christmas and have a happy new Nechville year!
Majorjer - Posted - 12/26/2009: 13:55:32
Tom,
i have the answer. Your engineerings are the best, yet the marketing hasn't done well for the name because it doesn't say Gibson or Stelling on the headstock. Affordability, in This economy may be the reason for a guy trying to feed a family of four. So, the answer is clear... parts from China, U.S. Assembly. Thats whats put Goldtone on the map and its worked.
That way you CAN produce a NECHVILLE for all budgets.
If you don't believe my thoughts on affordability, just look at the classifieds here and see how many of the higher end banjos wind up For Sale..ie. Gibson being the leader.
I've never seen a Nechville on the GiveAway sponsored like the RB250 by JD shown now.
You make a gr8 banjo, it just needs promotional backing to jumpstart the name.
budbennett - Posted - 12/26/2009: 18:39:16
actually tom did give away a nechville in the BHO giveaway once. some lucky person got a free moonshine i think.
Goldstarman - Posted - 12/27/2009: 04:31:25
Good promotions are always good but I do disagree to a point. I think the main reason Nechville is not up there with Gibson or Stelling yet is because of the mindset of the banjo playing community. People for the most part do not like change and it takes awhile to take people in another direction. I think Tom has come up with things for the banjo that are just mind blowing and I think his banjos are some of the very best banjos EVER made. His innovations are unmatched in the banjo making business. Some of his banjos are very reasonably priced and I think ANYONE with an open mind who plays a Nechville will know right away their holding something great.
Guy - Posted - 12/27/2009: 05:15:40
I agree entirely with Goldstarman. The manufacturing of Tom's banjos could easily be farmed out to China or whatever country is currently offering the cheapest sweat shops but that would mean that he would also be farming out the quality aspect of his product.
Tom's banjos are not even about great innovation. Tom happens to be a great innovator but I think I'm right in saying that he came up with the idea of the helimount because he knew that to try and go head to head with Gibson and Stelling and try to produce a quality Gibson clone would put his banjos into a much bigger pond and anyway; the guy who wants a Gibson banjo is going to go and buy a Gibson banjo and nothing else will do. I've met people who would swear on their Mother's grave that their Gibson is fantastic, even if it was a pile of crap, rather than admit they'd bought it because of what it said on the headstock.
This forum is chock bang full of people who've been duped into buying a "Pre-war Gibson" or such like, only to find that it is Charlie's broom. You know about Charlie's broom don't you? He's had it for 40 years, he's replaced the handle 5 times and changed the head 15 times but it's still the same broom.
Even if you buy one of Tom's banjos off the shelf, if you have an issue with it, Tom or his staff will work with you until you, and Tom, are entirely satisfied that you got at the very least, the banjo you dreamt of. You only have to back comb through this topic to see that in action. If you get the chance to meet Tom in person and you've got your banjo with you, he'll have it out of your hands and will be all over it checking the head tension setting the bridge, re-adjusting the action, all the while chatting away and sounding out your requirements to make sure he's giving you what you want.
I for one, hope that Tom continues to make and sell his banjos the way he's always done, that's why he has the legion of dedicated followers like me to shout his praises on places like this forum.
Guy
Majorjer - Posted - 12/27/2009: 06:19:11
Yup, guy. I met Tom at an IBMA in nashville couple of years back and picked up a LEFTY banjovie to practice with on the road..tuned to C.
And you are right about the 'pre-war'(whatever that means)crapola stuck up the butts of those who don't have a clue. 'pre-war' is nothing more than a myth or fantasy advertising semantic conjured to market and up the ante on...OLD ..banjos for top bux...period.
Jim Pankey - Posted - 12/27/2009: 07:33:24
People are funny about brands...
Had a fellow come up to me after a show that really wanted to see my banjo. He had been either sidestage, or backstage and didn't see what I was playing but was convinced it was an "old" banjo. He commented on how good it sounded and just had to see "that old pre-war".
So, I popped open the case and his comment was something to the effect, "Oh, it's one of those..." and started to walk off. I held it out to him for him to try and he acted as if he'd been insulted -- or maybe he thought I had tricked him. Guess it didn't have the right name on the peghead.
Most folks, however, have been pretty great about it. Had another situation like the one above where someone was convinced I was playing an old banjo, but was surprised when I showed him what I was playing. He sat for quite a while playing my banjo.
As for marketing... I think that Nechville fits a certain niche, and in the banjo world that's about the best you can hope for. Don't forget, it took Stelling a long time to get any respect, and he had the benefit of Gibson producing absolutely horrible stuff from the late 60s to the late 80s. But even then, when I would carry my Stelling to a fester or gig, there would always be someone that told me that I needed an "old Gibson".
For me, my Nechville doesn't carry the same "stigma" as the Stelling did. I think people figured they knew what the Stelling was all about, but the Nechville is a mystery to folks. It's so different that people have a hard time actually theorizing what they think it's going to sound like. So I've done a lot of passing it around, taking it apart, and letting folks just pick it. Some have bought them afterwards... some continue to be persuaded by the "everyone else has a..." logic.
Goldstarman - Posted - 12/27/2009: 08:38:49
Yeah, my wife says I hate change but only in every aspect of life except banjos...LOL
I really don’t understand that mindset though seriously; if you like something why turn your nose up at it? That’s just ignorance unfortunately.
What we need is more pickers out there on the road playing Nechvilles, turning heads and showing people what there all about, it will happen and they will come into their own in a big way soon, I think there here to stay now for sure. I’ve talked to Tom a few times and for sure he is an honest standup banjo savvy man, great guy.
RaYhOLio - Posted - 12/27/2009: 11:17:59
The Nechville banjo is a relatively new banjo.. and more importantly, the design is new. Tom is still trying out different materials, and construction methods.. I can't predict the future, but I'd bet once the design stops changing so much, then maybe the possibility of a foreign model can come to be.. There also needs to be a market for several thousond units before overseas contracting becomes a possibility. I doubt that we're there yet.
Right now, it seems that EVERY nechville banjo is custom, and unique.. which justifies both the price tag, and the American jobs that he's maintaining.. The banjos he's making today could easily be the 'pre-war's' of nechvilles future..
What can I say? it's about friggin' time someone looked at the old gibson design and said.. "Gee.. this doesn't make any sense at all!" Tom is the 1st to do that.. and change is hard.. EVERYONE else is making glorified gibsons.. Someday perhaps everyone else will be making glorified Nechvilles :) I honestly believe the design is that good.
We have to realize though.. Old timers with the same pre-war gibson the purchased 25 years ago will not be potential customers.. Don't get offended when they snub you banjo... They have 'married' their gibson, and til death will they part. Nothing wrong with that. but The nechville customers will be newer, younger pickers, and more progressive players.. as such it'll take several years for those types to be taken seriously.. and with it their instruments.
Right now they say "Earl, Tony, and roy all play gibson.. it is the best" Maybe later we'll be saying "Ray, Jimbo, and Guy all play nechville.. It's the best!" Just like some say "Vastel plays a stealth!.. I want one!" on a side note, I might have tom make me a nechville neck in the stealth scale someday.. might be a neat toy :)
Anyhow.. Nothing will sell more banjos than someone famous and good popularizing them.. and that takes time.
Goldstarman - Posted - 12/27/2009: 11:34:36
I could never tell much difference in the 25.5 scale but I do know the nechville plays easier, not by alot buts its the easiest playing of all banjos Ive tried
Edited by - Goldstarman on 12/27/2009 18:00:55
pick1936 - Posted - 12/27/2009: 17:26:01
Toms Banjos' are the best built today, and tomorrow, Tom has been building for 20 years, and Coming up with new Idea at Jet speed, I think in the near future You will be able to get a Nechville, with a choice of at least 2 or 3 Tone rings,.... Mine had the bronze tone ring, I went to the Wood Ring, now weighd 7 lb's, and sounds great. Mine has The Steel Ball bearings,, BUT You can switch anytime, and Get Delrin or Ceramic Tone Sphere--(Balls, You can have such a choice, It could Strain Your brain deciding. any one You Choose can not be beat, any sound,, any string height,,, Change heads,, Tone Rings, in Min., anyone who has never played one should, anyone close to Higginsville, Mo. can come pick Mine anytime, , They Are The Best.
Cmon on by Mo. Guys.
I'll pick on the fast burner.
You can be a Nut Turner HA>
Rings like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
Edited by - pick1936 on 12/29/2009 09:09:19
firelakekid - Posted - 12/30/2009: 19:51:28
After a few long years of waiting, I was finally able to afford a new banjo. I ended up getting a Nechville maple Phantom. It is wonderful to look at; it plays easy and the sound is what appeals to me and fits my situation. Also, I don't miss the fifth string peg head. The banjo was delived with a 6/8 inch bridge. (May not have that measurement quite right? My poor memory.) But it just seemed too high for me. So Tom sent a couple other lower bridges. I found the right size for me and now everything is cool. I especially like the neck, it seems so glassy smooth. I really get a kick out of it. I have experimented with adjusting head tension also, and it was quite easy to do. I pretty much ended up leaving it where Tom had it set. The design is a definete advantage, especially for someone "mechanically challenged" like myself and was a selling point for me.
I think that there are many wonderful banjos out there. I am thankful that right now I have one of the very best. In fact, I'm going to shut down the computer and go practice right now. Paul
kcking1 - Posted - 12/30/2009: 20:06:59
That's great Firelakekid. Put some pictures up of it - we'd love to see it. Where did you get it?
They're great banjos.
KC
pick1936 - Posted - 12/31/2009: 16:24:04
Hey Paul, glad You got a Nechville, You now own a banjo, that You will never want to let go of, Hope You are are pickin the fire out of it, Happy New Year..
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
Edited by - pick1936 on 12/31/2009 16:27:05
pick1936 - Posted - 01/01/2010: 16:26:28
My first day of the new year, Pickin My (Timbr--Tronic) Classic Deluxe, I never get tired of the great sound, and playabilty,, and Speed of adjustability. if anyone has never tried one, Just try one, or look up someone up Who has one.. My offer still stands for anyone close to Higginsville. Mo. Come on By.
That 7 lb. banjo's, Just My size, Lord Just My size.
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
jbanjoist - Posted - 01/01/2010: 18:52:55
Welcome to the "Brotherhood of the Nechvillian Order" Paul.
You picked a mighty fine banjo to get.
Ace Rimmer - Posted - 01/02/2010: 11:45:11
From a not-so-experienced banjo player's viewpoint: I had a chance to play (more like fool around) with a Nechville banjo when taking a few lessons last year from a banjo teacher who is also a Nechville dealer in Auburn, WA. I forget the model now, but that Nechville was a little more playable with a different sound than the RK-80 I have. However, considering that I paid $750 for the RK-80 and the Nechville was $5,000+, I don't think the difference warrants an additional 3-5 mortgage payments over the banjo I have. I did buy the Nechville compensated bridge for the RK-80, but have not noticed much of a difference in that over the standard bridge that came with it.
If and when I get an upgraded banjo it will more than likely be a Deering, because every Deering that I have played so far was easier to play - the fretting seems easier because the strings seem lower to the fretboard, and (at least with the Sierra) moving up and down the neck is easier with the satin neck finish and the way the neck is shaped. All that and I can get one of the top models for half of what I would pay for a Nechville. I believe Deering is US made and built as well.
One thing that Nechville has above Deering, however, is their electric banjo model. The Deering version (Crossfire?) sounds like an electric guitar played banjo style, whereas the Nechville version actually sounds like an electrically amplified banjo.
For what it's worth...
Mike
pick1936 - Posted - 01/02/2010: 13:07:48
Mike You should go to store that has 4 or 5 nechville's, They are without a dought the EASYEST playing banjo You can find anywhere, You can change the neck angle, therfore change the height of the strings from the frets and do it in just Min. NECHVILLE--The Best Banjo's Being Built Today,, and Tomorrow. and as for price, I don't see how He can sell such a GREAT banjo at the price He gets.
Rings Like Silver.
But It's Wood.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
banjobrunette - Posted - 01/02/2010: 14:08:00
quote:
Originally posted by Ace Rimmer
From a not-so-experienced banjo player's viewpoint: I had a chance to play (more like fool around) with a Nechville banjo when taking a few lessons last year from a banjo teacher who is also a Nechville dealer in Auburn, WA. I forget the model now, but that Nechville was a little more playable with a different sound than the RK-80 I have. However, considering that I paid $750 for the RK-80 and the Nechville was $5,000+, I don't think the difference warrants an additional 3-5 mortgage payments over the banjo I have. I did buy the Nechville compensated bridge for the RK-80, but have not noticed much of a difference in that over the standard bridge that came with it.
If and when I get an upgraded banjo it will more than likely be a Deering, because every Deering that I have played so far was easier to play - the fretting seems easier because the strings seem lower to the fretboard, and (at least with the Sierra) moving up and down the neck is easier with the satin neck finish and the way the neck is shaped. All that and I can get one of the top models for half of what I would pay for a Nechville. I believe Deering is US made and built as well.
One thing that Nechville has above Deering, however, is their electric banjo model. The Deering version (Crossfire?) sounds like an electric guitar played banjo style, whereas the Nechville version actually sounds like an electrically amplified banjo.
For what it's worth...
Mike
Goldstarman - Posted - 01/02/2010: 17:29:24
Ace if what you say is correct then you didnt play a Nechville that was setup well. The action can be set up low in a few min, Ive owned 60 plus banjos in the last 10 years or so and Ive been playing 23 years, Nechvilles play like no other banjos made.
nechville - Posted - 01/04/2010: 09:01:12
Since this thread is in the "shopping advice" category, Let me mention 2 Nechville demos that are interesting. I have one Helimount frame suited up with a Burlisle Tone ring. I also have Noam's old/repaired Mahogany Nextar neck with a black head and extra low tuning. I want to do some demo videos, but for now if anyone is interested, you can call me for details, just as a ballpark, the Nextar will go for around $2000, and the Burlisle tone ring will add about a grand to whatever model we put it in.
swirlypillow - Posted - 01/04/2010: 10:13:49
Tom,
Let me just say that, when I first started looking around for a new banjo (not long after I got my...don't laugh...Dean Backwoods 5) I looked at Nechville banjos first. I absolutely love the way they look, especially some of the neck inlays. I dig the cascade inlay pattern so much I bought a strap from you guys with the cascade pattern on it. I also really dig the wood armrests and the black flange, etc. The sound is awesome on your banjos, at least from what I can tell from demo videos. I've never had the opportunity to hear one or play one in person. I also like the fact that you can easily adjust the head tension with a couple of quick turns of the wrench.
The sole factor keeping me from getting a Nechville is the price. I'm not complaining about it. I understand that the quality of craftsmanship and parts used, as well as a healthy profit margin, command this kind of price. I just don't have that kind of money, and doubt I will for some time. Otherwise I wouldn't bother looking at any other brand of banjo.
RaYhOLio - Posted - 01/04/2010: 10:40:45
I'm on that boat w/ ya Swirly... I havn't gotten a nechville yet because I can't afford it..
I had to face it.. IF I could afford ANY american made professional banjo, I could afford a nechville.. I believe that they're priced competitively.. it's just that new american made (professional) banjos START around 2 grand.. Nechvilles start a little higher than that.. but as far as I've seen, they're also better than any 2 grand banjo.. I think most would agree..
Buy used.. That nextar is probably a good deal.. I've also recently seen a nechville phantom go for right around 2 grand on ebay.. If you look hard enough, and patiently enough, you'll find a killer deal.. and if you ever sell, you could actually stand to make a profit if you do it right.. essentially making your banjo price nuetral..
JamesTanglewylde - Posted - 01/04/2010: 17:38:51
Hey Tom, those sound like some awesome banjos that you've got there. I've been really curious about that burile tone ring and naturally, I've been wondering how it plays in a nechville. That ring has been the source of countless threads and discussions and I would love to hear your response to it from a nechville banjo perspective! Happy new year Tom!!!
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