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Kemo Sabe - Posted - 05/13/2008: 06:20:23
OK..I see a lot of panels about lyrics in Band In A Box....but I can't figure how to enter the lyrics...Is there a way to display lyrics of the song (type them in and then see them) for some vocal practice (& lyric learning) while practicing banjo chords / melodies with BIAB? I am working on a few songs - I know the chords well and I know the melody notes well but I would like to type in lyrics so I will also be learning the words to more than just the one verse I now know. 
Thanks for any ideas.
Phil
Katy, Tx
"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)
"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]
Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 05/13/2008 08:10:11
Texasbanjo - Posted - 05/13/2008: 08:24:19
There's a way to type in lyrics, BUT you have to print out the song. At least that's the only way i know of to do it. Perhaps those with newer versions can tell you more. My 2004 doesn't write the lyrics on the BIAB page where the chords are.
Let's Pick!
Texas Banjo
Kemo Sabe - Posted - 05/13/2008: 09:40:31
Sherry - thanks for your comments - I did some reading (very little) and then called the folks that mfg and sell BIAB. I have the 2007 version but she told me she thought the 2004 would work very similar to how she talked me through posting lyrics to songs:
I posted the lyrics to "Wreck Of The Old 97" ....
1. Bring the song up for play but have it on stop
2. Click on 'Notation'
3. Click on 'Notation / edit..."
4. Go to the barr below the brown bar (it is a green bar on my screen) - and type in the lyrics.
5. Here is the biggie: You have to type in the words to CORRESPOND WITH THE MEASURES where the words / syllables fit into the song.... (looks like I am going to learn about this music stuff one way or the other )
6. When you 'Save' the song the lyrics will save.
This will give the lyrics streaming across the screen with the appropriate measures on the notation type screens. Some would say (most would say) why not just get a song book and sing from there - I prefer to see the lyrics on the screen and not mess with all the books and paper. My goal is to learn the lyrics to these songs and not need songbooks.
I think there are other ways of 'pasting' lyrics to the songs in BIAB but I did not pursue that angle.
..Sherry, thanks again for your comments.
Phil
Katy, Tx
"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)
"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]
Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 05/13/2008 09:59:48
Texasbanjo - Posted - 05/13/2008: 12:22:32
Thanks, Phil, I didn't know my BIAB would do that. I don't need it, but it's nice to know that BIAB will do that. Guess that proves I'm never too old to learn something new.
Let's Pick!
Texas Banjo
Kemo Sabe - Posted - 05/13/2008: 13:37:47
One more thought on this process - I typed the lyrics into a Word Processor - then played the song from BIAB - minimized the BIAB screen with the lyrics from the word processor on the screen. This actually accomplishes everything I am after - it does not get the lyrics into BIAB but it works very well and I do not have to match the words / syllables to the BIAB measures since I already know the chords and melodies to the songs I am working with.
Also, somebody (not me) might figure out how to paste the lyrics from the Word Processor to BIAB..... there is some verbage in the BIAB manual on pasting from a Word Processor to BIAB - I do hate reading manuals and directions .
Phil
"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)
"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]
Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 05/13/2008 13:45:32
Kemo Sabe - Posted - 05/13/2008: 22:53:29
OK...here's another way to enter lyrics into BIAB:
BIAB has it's own Word Processor - so if you are going to type lyrics just type them into BIAB and you will be able to look at that document when the song is playing.
1. Pull up the song into BIAB
2. Click on 'Lyrics'"
3. Click on 'Lyric Document Window'
4. Type in the lyrics
5. Now 'Save" the song so that you will have that Lyrics Document any time you pull up the song.
I did this for 'Wreck Of The Old Ninety-Seven' - .it works fine.
Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 05/15/2008 04:00:39
dlaustin - Posted - 05/14/2008: 09:47:41
Hi all,
This is my first post on the forum. Newbie to the banjo about 3 months now. I've seen BIAB referred to a few times and was wondering if any of you are using it on a Mac and how well it works. If this is the wrong forum, please excuse me.
Thanks,
David
dlaustin - Posted - 05/14/2008: 09:48:31
Hi all,
This is my first post on the forum. Newbie to the banjo about 3 months now. I've seen BIAB referred to a few times and was wondering if any of you are using it on a Mac and how well it works. If this is the wrong forum, please excuse me.
Thanks,
David
Tyler8 - Posted - 05/14/2008: 09:51:42
I use BIAB on a mac (OS X 10.3 and 10.5). Works well -- pretty much the same as the pc verison.
Just buy plain-vanilla biab. None of the add-ons or other packs and then download Dave Marshall's great "allsgu.zip" file http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.k.marshall/ which contains backup for 200 bluegrass tunes.
Tyler
Edited by - Tyler8 on 05/14/2008 09:54:34
dlaustin - Posted - 05/14/2008: 14:55:07
Thanks Tyler,
I'll save my money up and get a copy before long.
David
Kemo Sabe - Posted - 05/15/2008: 04:02:05
After noodling with this idea of entering lyrics into BIAB I have discovered that using the 'Lyrics Document Window' is the best way to enter the lyrics for me. It basically is just a word processor with all the normal functions of a word processor - you just pull the song sheet up on the screen after starting the song with BIAB. I have now started indicating the chord changes on the song sheets - in this learning process I have discovered that the chord changes are not always where I had thought they were. I use the Nashville numbering sys to indicate chord changes - that way key changes are a lot easier to make at a jam. The BIAB word processor allows for easy printout of the song sheets - that makes for convenient update on my songbook and a simple way to make copies for distributing at a jam. I have discovered that some 'jammers' don't especially like song sheets with the Nashville numbering system - sorry, guys, but that is how I do it.
The more I use BIAB the better I like it - I think BIAB is an incredible tool for learning.
Phil
"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)
"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]
Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 05/15/2008 05:44:49
Kemo Sabe - Posted - 05/17/2008: 23:08:31
I've done a little more reading of the Band In A Box manual - there are a couple of other ways to put lyrics into Band In a Box. One would be to copy and paste from lyrics you already have in a word processor. I tried this but was not successful in getting lyrics into BIAB this way. Another subject the manual talks about is using the "Big Lyric" screen. Unfortunatly, I have not been able to get lyrics to that screen. If anybody uses these methods I would like to hear about it.
Meanwhile, as mentioned earlier, I have had great success with just entering the lyrics on the 'Lyrics Document' which is actually a word processor.
Thanks,
Phil
"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)
"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]
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